Thomas Wayne wrote:

I'm not "back peddling" at all. 

TW

Actually, I didn't say you were back peddling, as in the sale of your goods, I said you were back pedaling.  But since you  are so thorough in reading your posts and the posts of others, I'll have to assume you meant what you wrote.   

Thomas Wayne wrote:

The problem you have is that you apparently don't understand what the concept "infringe" actually means in terms of patent law...
TW

My only problem is that I took the time to respond to this thread.

The only unfortunate aspect of the entire episode is that Dave Goode had a very reasonable opportunity to avoid any future conflict by accepting our open and generous offer to share our work with him, WITHOUT ANY OBLIGATION ON HIS PART.  In the event that our patent is eventually granted we will either have to work out some sort of agreement at that point, or perhaps Goode will choose to cease manufacturing the "Bubble Buoy".  This sort of legal entanglement happens all the time in industry - think Perfect Pass v. Zero Off -  and it’s most often resolved without any great amount of anguish on anyone's part.  Hopefully that will be the case here.


I still don't understand?  If someone independantly and without prior knowledge or input comes up with a similiar product;  markets and sells the product ; and later another person / company is granted a patent on a similiar but not identical product;  is the first person required by law to relinquish his rights to that product which he has already marketed?  Or is this considered by law to be prior art since he did not know of and was able to produce the product before the other person?  If you wanted protection from "infringement", it seems some sort of system (like patent pending) would be in place to prevent this from happening? 

Also, if you are serious about caring for skiers safety why would you force Goode to quit making the bubble bouy? I think we all agree ,while it may not be perfect, it is better and safer than a regular air filled bouy.  And if you have a similiar but better system why can't you produce and market it as a patent pending design??  It is interesting to me that you bring up the PP vs ZO debacle as well.  I think that represents the most tragic and unfair thing to happen in the sport of slalom waterskiing at least since I have been involved in it.  (since 1996).  ZO basically forced PP out of the market.  While it may have been good business it sure was unfair to all the skiers who could not afford a new boat with ZO.  We can argue all day about whether PP or ZO is "better", but the truth is that if you practice behind PP and ski tournaments behind ZO you are at a  huge disadvantage right off the bat!  It would seem to me to be a real shame if skiers were suffering ankle and lower leg fractures because Goode was "forced" to stop making a safety bouy.  I would hope you would not follow down the path ZO did just to make a quick buck and without a care for the skiers themselves.

TW wrote:

Main Entry: dis•place
Pronunciation: \(ˌ)dis-ˈplās, di-ˈsplās\

1 a : to remove from the usual or proper place; specifically : to expel or force to flee from home or homeland <displaced persons> b : to remove from an office, status, or job c obsolete : to drive out : banish

2 a : to move physically out of position <a floating object displaces water>

So by the rationale you offer above, all our basic understanding of physics is "wrong", because a floating object does NOT displace water - that water's still in the lake, by golly.

Of course, I'm quite sure you grasp the speciousness of your argument so I won't bother to address it further.  However, on the off chance that you actually believe what you wrote, all I can say is good luck to you then...

TW
(PS: Thanks for the belly laugh, Ron.)

Thomas, you placed nothing in my cup of coffee to displace the coffee so what does a floating object have to do with this? Another irrelevant statement and definition.
The coffee was not expelled or forced from the cup, it's still there, not displaced. In the truest terms, you did not alter the state or location of the coffee, it may be just semantics but the only thing you relocated is the cup, the coffee is still in its original location=inside the cup!  I'm not really sure what I need luck with either, I am doing quite well thank you.

david38off wrote:

[...]

As for the negative karma , I am not going to give you any.  Would appreciate it if you showed me the same courtesy.

Oh, I don't care about your negative "karma".  Anyone who reads the comments you've already posted there can easily judge the source.  But what I do care about is the unnecessary and excessive profanity you seem to like to use in public. I have to ask, do you have kids of an age where they can read?  If so, do you really want them to see that side of their own father?  What about your friends' kids?

Like I said,  "david38off", your previous comments are disturbing enough already.  I mean, whenever I look at my "karma" from May 29 & June 2 [ http://www.proskicoach.com/forum/reputa … 28&p=3 ] and read where you wrote:

david38off wrote:

"blow me you know it all douche bag" and
"Eat sh*t you stupid dumb f*cking bastard!" [edited for decency's sake]

It bothers me that YOU posted such trash to a public forum, but it's connected to MY screen name.  After all, I really don't want my own teenage daughter reading that sort of filth either.

So PLEASE, David, keep it clean... okay? This is, first and foremost, a family sport.

TW

Last edited by Thomas Wayne (Wed, Jun 30, 2010 2:47 AM)

david38off wrote:

[...]And You on the other hand also used the word douchbag,[...]

Where?  Quote me, with a link... liar.

TW
(PS: The karma page IS public on this forum.)

Last edited by Thomas Wayne (Wed, Jun 30, 2010 3:34 AM)

Wait!  Maybe instead of a "Cage Fight" we should have a Ski Off!  We all know that "Thomas Wayne" is an amazing skier who knows almost EVERYTHING, but can he ski?  We have seen videos of Scott Chipman, and others, but NEVER of  "Thomas Wayne".  Post a video, Thomas, and maybe we'll all become believers!

danbirch wrote:

Wait!  Maybe instead of a "Cage Fight" we should have a Ski Off!  We all know that "Thomas Wayne" is an amazing skier [...]

Wherever did you get that idea, Dan?  Certainly not from anything I've ever claimed.  But I do appreciate that you've given up on any sort of intellectual debate or reasoned dialog, and now are simply trying to find some other way to declare "victory".

I'm curious though, does buoy count automatically measure who's right?  Should we conclude that everyone who skis knows less about all ski-related subjects than Chris Parrish?  After all, no one on this forum (or in the world, for that matter) has a higher buoy count than him!

Well that's it then - Dan Birch has decided.  All opinions are wrong unless they agree with whatever Chris Parrish says!  Too bad he doesn't even post here... 

TW

Oh and BTW, as for my "homosexual" overtures,  if we were in prison TW, I'd definitely make you my bitch!

Thomas Wayne wrote:

david38off wrote:

Oh and BTW, as for my "homosexual" overtures,  if we were in prison TW, I'd definitely make you my bitch!

Yes, you've made your interests in being intimate with members your own gender quite clear - flaunted it, in fact.

TW
(PS: BTW, you guys are doing great.  Collectively you're very close to - once again- affirming Benford's Law of Controversy - congratulations!)

LOL.. Yeah Benford looks alot like you .. a little ,small  minded, weak bodied, pocket protector carrying wimp, that tries to act intelligent as a byproduct of having no luck with women. So what is the ratio of women to men in Alaska?  And who is more likely to have interests in the "same"sex?  Hmmm?  Me thinks it would be you!!  LMAO  Yes thats it all ass here and proud of it!!  As for the cage fight, I know a few guys here in TN that are involved in the certified sport of Cage fighting , and yes we could make it happen.  I am challenging you to a fight in a cage, with certified UFC officials , UFC rules.  I will even give you a year to train for it.  Dont worry , there will be a certified referee present to make sure the rules are followed.  We can televise the fight live here on webcast for all to see.  What do you say??  Come on take off the little girl panties and lets make this a real man's argument!  I am officially calling you out to the playground to fight MFer!  After all I am only 12 yrs old. One yr from today...what do you say?

Just when i thought this thing couldnt get any better TW you have reached a new low on this forum. Sorry i didnt have more time last night to sit and read this but i had some bouys to slash.
By the way my new 66 Strada performs great in 6" chop!! I was amazed at how well the thing held its edge it never blew out once!!! 6 to 8" of chop.
MC

Hmmmm?  I guess TW 's lack of a response means no cage fight?  Darn it all !  I was so looking forward to it.  And no ski off either??  Darn it all.  that could have been fun to watch also, (not as much fun as a cage fight though).  So no skiing, no cage fighting, just big words and BS!  I understand completely now.

david38off wrote:

Hmmmm?  I guess TW 's lack of a response means no cage fight?  Darn it all !  I was so looking forward to it.  And no ski off either??  Darn it all.  that could have been fun to watch also, (not as much fun as a cage fight though).  So no skiing, no cage fighting, just big words and BS!  I understand completely now.

Oh, you were serious about that?  I figured you were just clowning as usual.  You really do have a screw loose, huh?  Like I’m going to waste the time and money fly to Tennessee just because you’ve got a desperate need to “prove” something?  Right...

If you're so sure you want to be in a fight with me come on up to Alaska - I'm very easy to find.  I don't need "a year to train" - I'm ready right now.  Let me know when your flight comes in and I’ll even send a car to pick you up.  Just be aware that there won’t be any “cage” or referee, and there won’t be any rules either – since you’ll be there to follow up on your threats to “punch me in the mouth”, and I’ll simply be defending myself from some over-the-edge internet lunatic.

One other thing - be sure to bring your ski gear, ‘cause after you meet me you just might decide you’d rather ski instead.  Personally, I’ll be fine with it either way.

You want to start a fight so bad then you come to me.  Until that day, all your macho posturing is just that - Internet "tough guy" posturing.

Thomas Wayne

Last edited by Thomas Wayne (Thu, Jul 1, 2010 7:27 AM)

Thomas Wayne wrote:

david38off wrote:

Hmmmm?  I guess TW 's lack of a response means no cage fight?  Darn it all !  I was so looking forward to it.  And no ski off either??  Darn it all.  that could have been fun to watch also, (not as much fun as a cage fight though).  So no skiing, no cage fighting, just big words and BS!  I understand completely now.

Oh, you were serious about that?  I figured you were just clowning as usual.  You really do have a screw loose, huh?  Like I’m going to waste the time and money fly to Tennessee just because you’ve got a desperate need to “prove” something?  Right...

If you're so sure you want to be in a fight with me come on up to Alaska - I'm very easy to find.  I don't need "a year to train" - I'm ready right now.  Let me know when your flight comes in and I’ll even send a car to pick you up.  Just be aware that there won’t be any “cage” or referee, and there won’t be any rules either – since you’ll be there to follow up on your threats to “punch me in the mouth”, and I’ll simply be defending myself from some over-the-edge internet lunatic.

One other thing - be sure to bring your ski gear, ‘cause after you meet me you just might decide you’d rather ski instead.  Personally, I’ll be fine with it either way.

You want to start a fight so bad then you come to me.  Until that day, all your macho posturing is just that - Internet "tough guy" posturing.

Thomas Wayne

Ok, first of all the rules and referee aren't to protect me from a little puss like you.  It's so I dont go to jail after I stomp the crap out of you. The referee is there to stop me from actually killing you!  I will definitely come to Alaska, if you arrange with a gym for us to have a fight!  I'm not scared of you AT ALL!  Just let me know where the gym is and I'll let you know the date I can get there. But I am serious about the sport of MMA, and would never take a fight without preparing for it.  You might, but that is why I will stomp your ass. It will be fun.  Oh and for all your little minions who are giving me bad karma posts, I am not 14 I am 12 like TW says.  All the guys involved in MMA are like 12 , duh, dont you watch Spike TV?  I mean obviously grown men never actually get in a ring and fight when they have disagreements, do they?  No, they just TALK, and post insults, and get lawyers and SUE.  Oh wait a minute I think there is a big "fight" this weekend between two 285 pound 14 yr old boys on PPV.  You and your lil buds ought to check it out and see what you are in for.  It should be a good fight.  And if you think these guys are doing it just for money then you understand MMA as much as I think you really understand slalom skiing.

Or, if that is too "childish" for you, I wll gladly buy you a plane ticket to come to a tournament, and we can have a "ski" off like Dan mentioned.  You might be right though, I might have a little screw loose when it comes to you, but I HATE bullys and you seem like a bully to me when it comes to forum posts.  Not trying to "prove" anything, except maybe you should try to be a little more polite in the future to people. 

And Shane , you say you want us to stop it. But do you really?  You dont have to read the posts.  But from What I see it seems this is one of the most popular threads on here.  Regardless of what you say, people are violent by nature, and they love a good fight.  That is why UFC is one of the biggest grossing products on PPV right now.  And regardless of what you say, you'd love to watch TW and myself get in a ring or a cage , or for that matter a lake (ski off) .  We could probably sell PPV tickets on a webcast and I bet you'd pay to see it.